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Caylee Prosecution Expert Gets Murder Conviction with Coffin Fly Evidence
The coffin fly evidence was found in Casey Anthony’s trunk & on the garbage bag . These type of flies are the most common flies found in human decomposition. They are commonly used as a evidence in court as a tool to show “time of death”. The size of the coffin flies are so small that they can maneuver between cracks to get inside closed areas. Whereas, the blow-flies are too large and would not be able to enter an area through a crack. Thus, only a part of a blow fly was present in Casey’s car trunk. From this evidence, Prosecution Expert, Dr. Neal H. Haskell, Entomologist, was able to determine that any decomposing carrion in Casey’s car trunk would have been most likely removed between June 20 & June 27, 2008.
Coffin Flies and part of a blow fly in trunk = decomposition in trunk
Fly Evidence use to get guilty verdict in murder case:Caylee Anthony Prosecution Expert, Dr. Neal H. Haskell, Entomologist, used coffin fly & and blow fly evidence to convict Brookey Lee West of murder. I’ve included an article on the murder case below. This murder case did not have all the circumstantial evidence like Casey Anthony’s case. Yet, after only two hours of deliberation, a jury found Brookey West guilty of murder. The Caylee Anthony case Prosecutors have an expert with a record of getting a murder conviction based on coffin/blow fly evidence. This coffin fly evidence is powerful and the prosecution has a proven powerful expert. You can’t get better than that.
The Truth, Revealed by Bugs: The Case of Brookey Lee West
By ELIZABETH SVOBODA Published: May 11, 2009
When Brookey Lee West’s mother, Christine Smith, disappeared from her Las Vegas apartment in 1998, Ms. West had a convincing explanation: She had sent Ms. Smith to stay with her son, Ms. West’s brother, in California. The story seemed to hold up at first, but by February 2001, when the police found Ms. Smith’s body stuffed into a garbage can in a Las Vegas storage unit, the situation smelled undeniably foul.
The authorities suspected Ms. West of killing her alcoholic mother, with whom she had frequently sparred since childhood. Nevertheless, it seemed that time was on Ms. West’s side. So many months had passed that a medical examiner testified that he was unable to determine how Ms. Smith died. Ms. West said that her mother had died peacefully of natural causes, and that she had panicked and crammed the decaying remains into the garbage can.
That might have been the end of it, if not for the testimony of Neal Haskell, a forensic entomologist at St. Joseph’s College in Rensselaer, Ind. Dr. Haskell determined that blow flies, insects that usually appear on corpses right after death, were nowhere to be seen on Ms. Smith’s body. Instead, most of the larvae Dr. Haskell found came from scuttle flies, or “coffin flies,” insects that cannibalize dead bodies after they have undergone initial decomposition.
“We knew it was a long time since Mom had been seen, and I thought, ‘If we have the blow flies, we can tell what season she went missing,’ ” Dr. Haskell said. “When I got the insect specimens, I was really disappointed.” But then Dr. Haskell realized the significance of the blow flies’ absence: Ms. Smith had to have been put into the garbage can either directly after she died or while she was still alive, barring the blow flies’ access to the corpse. (Coffin flies, on the other hand, could have gotten to the body because they often tunnel through tiny nooks and crannies.)
“That showed me that West had to have lied about what she did with her mother,” Dr. Haskell said. After only two hours of deliberation, a jury pronounced Ms. West guilty of her mother’s murder. Ms. West is serving a life sentence at a prison in southern Nevada SOURCE: The New York Times by ELIZABETH SVOBODA Published: May 11, 2009
You can review the fly evidence here: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21540599/detail.html
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lol..casey sweating bullets, hence the pop marks on her body..grossssssss…lol
Pat - I’m waiting for the defense to state that Casey has multiple personalities. They will say Casey is the nanny & here is their proof!
1. The nanny was a 10 with perfect white teeth
2. Casey says she last saw Caylee with the nanny
3. The nanny had everything Caylee would need (toys, clothes etc…)
4. The nanny was trying to get an apartment at Sawgrass ( same place Casey hung out)
5. Casey used the name Zenaida G. when she got pulled over & ticketed
6. Casey had a (job app. or resume’) in her car that stated she was a nanny per George
I could go on & on; but you get the idea! I think its possible the defense may take this route! - jmo
Diane=====Totally agree=Also her story about the odor,shows she was trying to cover the about the smell.In her wropped mind she had everything covered. If she said it ,that was the end of it,nobody corrects Casey on her lies,nobody.Except the state of Fl.
The defense can say anything they want! The State will be able to prove/disprove any statements made by the defense pertaining to evidence! Good grief, I hate using that word when referring to kc! The defense does not have to prove innocence, I know. But they need to be able to substantiate their claims, and they will fail at this, imo! Witnesses from the towyard will be on hand, I’d bet! And we’ve heard nothing yet about defense plans for any other entomolologist to come forth and dispute Dr. Haskell’s testimony!
OBS, Yep that will be there proof. I now the officer at the house took something out of Caseys wallet I am dying to know what it was. If they can tie Casey to that ticket in the name of Zenaida that will really do it. There is something really fishy about that whole deal on that ticket. I just feel there is so much we do not know yet.
obs==========Please don’t give Bozo any good ideas,Mulitilpe personalities,even if that’s true they all need the DP or lwop.Because they are all qulity.lol
Obsie
You know I ♥ you! But I don’t think they will be able to claim that either. Ol’ girl has already had an evaluation, I think, saying she was not mentally ill. That is, if my memory serves me correctly. And $indy-for whatever it’s worth-is on record saying she is not unbalanced. The defense will have to get an expert to testify that she has multiple personalities and it is extremely difficult to fake that.
Pat - The defense has no where else to go with this other than state she has multi-personalities & in so many words ( The left hand didn’t know what the right hand was doing) ! They will probably say her alter ego (Cindy) took over & did the deed, Casey has no knowledge of it!
I just looked at Casey, I only see one personality it is about Me so we are safe and she sure is not a 10.
Obsie
For sure, the defense needs to take some route! The Invisinanny, a stranger, etc sure ain’t workin’!!
Peggy - I hear ya!
elljay - Back at ya friend!! I’m done with my observations for the day! - LOL
That fly in the photos above better look out, y’all! Ol’ kc’s givin’ it the evil eye!
I don’t think Kc has had her last date yet with a coffin fly!!
Kinda interesting about $indy being the alter ego & Kc having no knowledge. Wonder if two different bodies can share the same multiple personality disorder??? Science fiction, I know, but everything else in this case has been unbelievable!!
I listened to George’s FBI interviews he stated he was told there are 1200 uncomprimizing photos of Casey out in syberspace. IMHO I think Casey was living an XXX rated life for a long time. There is so much evidence both circum/forensic Baez will be waving the white flag when it comes down to where the rubber meets the road. Casey was probably using her laptop as a party planner selling herself. Lee deleted her laptop within a couple hours of Cindy finding Casey @ Tony’s. He committed a crime but unintentionally and immunity would get him off the hook if he agreed to cooporate. C & G laying low with no comments is scary. Maybe they get it, we will have Justice For Caylee.
Bingo - I agree with most of what you said except that Lee deleted everything UNintentionally - He knew exactly what he was doing! - jmo
Bingo
Interesting thoughts! Maybe there was a little “truth” to the event planner thing; just not the kind of events you’d find at Disney! Maybe Tubesy was her “pimp” or whatever, and that’s why he cleared her computer and that is what he wanted immunity for!! Hmmmmm………..
ej. hey to you sweet thing. science fiction, that is something sock boy is into big time..hehe
AND YES MY FRINEDS,HOW CAN THE 911 TERRIOST BE IN FRONT OF A AMERICAN JURY.PLUM DISGUSTING,TO ME THEY SHOULD HAVE NEAUX RIGHTS PERIOD.GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.AND CAYLEE MARIE.NEED TO GEAUX COOK DINNER,BBL.
oh yes..guaranteed.when cindy dearest sent ole sock boy to tony’s to retrieve “the rest of her stuff” he already knew…caylee was dead, and he deleted things helter skelter, as fast as he could..after all i think it was noted he knows alot about IT stuff…he did not know if there was incriminating stuff i am sure when he went to retrieve it, but i bet he seen it, and knew he had to get rid of it..lol isn’t it computers101 that no matter that you deleted stuff, nothing ever leaves the computer internal stuff we know nothing about.
I remember hearing Tony saying Lee spent time on Casey’s lap top at the apt when he went over the night he picked up Caseys things. Oh excuse me Cindys lap top, lol. I am sure a lot got deleated we all know that does not take long to do.
I’m reading on the Diane Fanning book. Since I haven’t read the documents as closely as others have, I am learning bits & pieces. I am up to when they interviewed Casey at Universal after she took them there. LE knew at that time that Casey did it. They knew. I’m glad they did because they were so attentive to everything she said and tried to trick her. They were so hard on her with the questions, I would have crumbled in 2 minutes.
JaneH
Did you check the message I left you in the BR?
the only thing that ever bothered me with the LE interviews with her..is their lack of allowing her to finish what she was saying. they would cut her off, and ask question after question without giving her time, to respond for long..i think they should have just sat silent, and let her do all the talking…without interruption in some of those interviews.
Inky
Yep, that’s true. I started a course (but had to drop) in Digital Forensics, and was amazed at what all can be regarding technology. Yep; whatever he deleted is still there!!
What all can be done with technology, I should’ve said.
even i know that ..no matter what you delete..NEVER leaves computer. but putting it in bleach and water, the hard drive, will do some real damage..that is what the accountant here at work does when throwing out a dinosaur computer.
ej, girl, you could have been sock boys worst nightmare..if you could have finished that course.
inky=======So true=I thought the same thing about LE not letting her finish talking,i also notice that in other interviews with Casey’s “friends”.Maybe that’s how LE works,not sure.As i was reading those interviews i’d talk to myself,ask her about this or that ,it felt like they skipped around too much ,left too much hanging,imo
I never buy books, and said I would not but a woman has that right to change her mind, lol I did purchase it and it was a very good book, even though I have read ever doc on this case. Ms. Fanny is right on and I recommend this book. In fact I emailed her and told her what a interesting book I thought it was. I also ask that she do a ending to this book when this case is done and Casey is convicted. I will also purchase it. And the best part the Anthony’s did not make a dime from the book.
Inky @ 4:23 P.m.
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I agree, I think they should have let her talk & hang herself!
elljay - Yes I saw that over the weekend. Sorry I didn’t respond then, but I’m relieved everything ok.
Shaniya’s mom sold her for sex………….i just cant believe this……i am sick over this. but i knew from day 1 that mom was involved. could not figure out why she would put her on the couch at 5:30 A.M. this is so sad…………when is this gong to end????
OT sorry……………but they were just talking about her on HLN & said LE will be having a press conference in a few minutes.
oh and Hello everyone
right on miss peggy…loose lips sink ships
Short OT–if they sold her for sex, why is she dead?
The only way this will end is when we get Law Makers to get off there duff and do something. Start here and lets work together and see if we can do this. Feel free to post this link on the net, send it to realitives and friends I need all the help I can get.
Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us
Searchers found Shaniya Davis’ body Monday off a highway southeast of Sanford, in central North Carolina
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/16/crimesider/entry5672021.shtml
that is a good question Jane…………and i dont know the answer. now they have not offically said it is her yet. but what hapened after that man took her into that elevator??? i just have a sick feeling it is going to be her.
……i KNEW it with no doubt the moment casey and lee ‘high-5ed’ when they called off the search for Caylee…. this case breaks my heart…i pray for her to be in GENERAL POPULATION…we ALL KNOW there WILL be a CONVICTION !!!!
debbie il======Hi back at ya.=That is heart breaking.How could anyone do that to a 5yr old child,let alone her own Mother.There is no telling what that precious child went through.So very sad.
Shaniya you were a gorgeous little girl with angel eyes and a smile that melts my heart. Now you are with Caylee and the many other little girls who left this life too soon. You have your angel wings and will forever dance in the heavens and be safe and loved. May justice come to those who should have loved you, not tortured and murdered you. Rest in peace sweet angel.
Sophie - that is a sweet thought. All those sweet children, so many of them died just this year, all about the same age - playing in Heaven.
YES !!!!!!!!!!!! 2 HELL WITH A TRIAL….LET EM HANG FOR 3 DAYS IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AT THE COURTHOUSE !!! GOD WILL SORT THEM OUT !!!! I AM SOOOOO MAD !!!!
Pat=I just signed your petition,a very good cause.I pray it helps.
i am assuming that is the only reason the mother wanted shanayia to come live with her, so she could get money for selling her to a sex ring..parents are getting sicker,, and sicker in their quest to rid themselves of their children. and make money doing it. i have had it~! if you never believed in abortion, now is the time to rethink it. i swear i would rather a child go before they are able to take a breath of air, than to be sexually exploited by their own parents no less, than to see the horror of them being raped, and killed.
we need our children taught BIRTH CONTROL , first and foremost, and given options out of it, if they do become pregnant, and are not ready for a child.
i could not agree more Inky
Peggy, Thank you I really appreciate the help.
oh pat how wonderful. i see you are a member of the petition site as well. i sign all things that protect children..when they email me.
Man oh man! And what the he** makes ‘em think that they can get away with this crap forever?? This beautiful little girl was being raised by her father; little Shaniya had only lived with her egg donor for a very short time. “Oh well. Nobody will know when my kid goes missing - lah de dah de dah!!”
i must go. my prayers for all the unwanted children in our own country this day, and everyday. may God bless them all. and may God bless all of you whom come to the caylee daily. take care to all of you and your loved ones. peace out. Inky out!
linky, That is the petition I started I am a firm believer in the protection of children. This case with Casey has really got to me. I want to do everything I can to help.
yep her dad was reluctant to let her go stay with her mom but he said she was doing well & had her own place & she asked him to let her be a mother……………..and look what she did!!! so now not only is he grieving for his daughter……….he has the guilt that he let her go live there……
Pat=You are so welcomed======The cruelty to these children has got To STOP!!!!!!!!!!
Peace Inky
When the autopsy results come out on little Shaniya it will not be an easy read, I promise
Pat………i have signed the petition. but i did not know you are the one who actually started it. you are awesome
Denise, it was not a easy read on Caylee either or any other child. The cruelty in this world is not easy anytime and it is not getting any better.
Thank you, Denise
Children seem to have become disposable. I just can’t wrap my head around it.
None of these children are disposable they are our future all of us at CD know that and love children or we would not be here.
I just wish ever story about children would put this petition on there site and keep it on ever childrens story. That is the only way we will get enough support to make a difference. Bless our little ones.
Janet H & Pat ==None of these children are disposable=======But the ones that do this are,they must be desposed of so they can never hurt another child.
The ongoing slaughter of innocent babies is to the point it truly makes me physically ill as my hope and prayers are trashed with the find of each body of these precious little angels. Those who choose to take the life of a child are given delays in trials, lawyers who will support their lies rather than work with the prosecution to secure justice. Defense lawyers are forever screaming that the prosecutors are just out for a win, while these sleeze bags lie and hide evidence and blame innocent people for the crimes their clients commit. Our justice system in effect is supporting the murder of children in our country by not making more stringent laws with regard to child abuse/murder and by not demanding that our courts raise the bar for defense attorneys so that they are REQUIRED to seek justice and in doing so defend their clients as best they can considering what crime they have committed. Andrea Lyons is a perfect example of what is wrong with defense attorneys and in particular death qualifed ones. She allowed an innocent man to lose all faith and hope in our system while she knowingly allowed the real perpetrator of the crime to live free. This goes beyond a state level. This needs to be addressed on a federal level that will be handed down to all states. Lawyers should be required to inform a client that he/she will defend them to the best of their ability but will in no way assist in yet another crime, i.e. pinning it on an innocent person, throwing people under the bus to raise reasonable doubt, having lawyers who specialize in getting criminals out of the DP, providing lawyers to tools (motions) to keep courts buried in paperwork rather than having the capability to honestly try someone for a crime. The list goes on and on.
Maybe it is time for the 1,000,000 person march on Washington DC to be the voices of murdered children!!!! Unless and until we do something at that level, I fear no petition or letter writing campaign will impact our government to the point of changing the current system which is now designed to benefit the criminal and not the victims. It is time that children are NOT returned to abusive parents. It is time to quit listening to so called professionals who claim a child is better off with a biological parent. I have 2 boys in college who will argue that statement all day long as they both feel they were better off with us (grandma & grandpa). You need a bachelor or master degree in social services to get a job with Child Protective Services or Department of Children & Families. I say you need a degree in life experience, common sense, the heart of a loving mother or father, and the courage to be a voice for abused children!!!!!!! Obviously the degrees don’t produce people who are capable of saving children and I for one am sick of it. I say we do a 1,000,000 person march on our capital and force those in power to open their eyes, open their ears, and reach to their toes to pull up all the courage they need to save a life!
Gotta go for abit. BBL
Sophie, I have talk to a few at social services and let me tell you if those people have a dregree they must of had it printed up at Wal Mart. The town I live in I think they are morons. Hard to believe they actually have a dregree.
Sophie===Bravo=========Standing Ovation========Clapping======Kudos.
So very well said .
Bye Jane
Oh Sophie,wonderful said,it almost brought a tear to my eye accept i am so pizzed at the system.Bravo,honey.
Peggy I humbly thank you. I hope someday to effect this march personally. I have hoped to do it once Casey is convicted as I want to stay focused on Caylee. Every change starts with one person to get it going.
Sophie, very well said. That sounds like a great idea to get there attention.
You all know I am as sickened as you by this mentality! It’s disheartening and so very sad to think that at least they are out of the clutches of the monsters that torture them, yet I think that way occasionally.
:emotion:
You guys have a safe and blessed evening.
Shophie===You have a wonderful goal and if its not too far off,if there is any i can i will join you.I’m not getting any younger,and at the rate things are going Casey’s trial might be years away.Sure hope not.=Stay the course for Caylee and all these precious children.
Sophie
You are so very awesome.
Watch full coverage on the discovery of Shaniya Davis’ body on HLN’s “Nancy Grace” at 8 p.m. ET Monday.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/16/north.carolina.missing.girl/index.html
I must ge going for now=========It’s been a sad day ====as most of you know i usually try and add some humor about G/C and Lee but today was not the time for any of that.God Bless and Protect The Children.
By Peggy, yes we are al feeling sad today.
dee - this is one time I honestly can not bring myself to click on the site you posted.. I can not watch the recovery of yet another body of an angel. Just can’t do it today. This one must be the “proverbial” straw that breaks the camel’s back, except for me it is the straw that breaks my heart into a million little pieces. My mind and heart are on overload and I don’t know what to do to fix it today. I appreciate you posting it and my prayers go out for Shaniya. I can’t imagine what those in LE must feel when they recover child after child and see first hand the horror of what mothers, relatives, neighbors, predators and other kids do to these precious and innocent gifts from God. I guess I need to step back and find a way to create some inner peace and inner strength as mine is waning at this moment. I am simply overwhelmed with sorrow today.
I wrote 11/16 for Dominic Casey’s depo; should be 12/16! SORRY!
It’s ’cause I can hardly wait. Ha!
OMG, Cindy had DCF at her house to investigate her babsitting duties since she is on disability. A viewer was worried when she saw 48 hours and Cindy had said she was watching her neighbors kid. I swear, I swallowed the hard piece of candy I had in my mouth, when I saw this. Too funny. I hope the people that issues her disability check will take notice and cut her off. Read it on WFTV. Sorry, don’t know how to post links.
nora - what is Cindy getting a disability check for - chronic lying? What a croc of crap that is.
Holloween is over why would anyone want to go to the house of horrors.
Probably getting disability for chronic blisters of the tongue from talking.
They concluded she was doing nothing wrong….probably because she’s doing nothing! I swear I think that child in Caylee’s room was just for the benefit of the 48 Hours show. As much as they proclaim Caylee’s room to be a “shrine” and she hasn’t cleaned that mirror, I just don’t see her actually allowing another child to play with Caylee’s things.
PS - I posted a recipe for anyone that likes veggie soup - easy & goood.
Or Cracked her Jaw from chewing Gum. Yes make youself look good for the camera, I agree
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Thank you, Express.
lol, guess I “killed” another thread…
CDF … visits cindy, says she hasn,t done anything wrong ..well maybe they should pay a visit to the child’s mother that left her kid with sindy !! She has stated publicly that she is on prescribed drugs , there are a million videos of her violence and temper not to mention her foul mouth , she has been caught in a million and one lies , doesn,t come off like any sane person in any way , has a cremated child’s body in her house that she doesn,t believe is her granddaughter , I think the person that would leave her child in sindy’s care at the very least should be investigated , probably got paid to put the kid in that house of horrors !!
I think LE did a great job. They are trained to do their job and all she did was to tell one lie after another. Yeah….they knew she was guilty. I just hope they prove it.
Good morning, Homer!
Yes, I think LE did an excellent job in spite of all the lies Casey, Cindy, George and Lee told! Those folks did not realize what all LE knew and I think they really thought they were going to B S their way out of it by throwing others under the bus.
I feel the Prosecution team members are professional and are on top of it. They will get a conviction for the State of Florida!
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/criminal_mind/forensics/kevin_neal/1_index.html
TruTv.com Library- Forensics KEVIN NEAL
“Kevin Neal” by Mark Gribben
Fascinating forensic investigation involving various kinds of flies that leads to a conviction………..
I heard on TRU TV a Detective say … “In an investigation, the dirty get dirtier, and the clean get cleaner.
Yes, let it ALL hang out!! They have hung themselves with their lying tongues. GOOD!
Let’s all pray for the wisdom, strength, fortitude, of the Prosecution and the Judge.